WWJD? - Not Exclude Women in the Church - or Anyone Else


Modern Era

John Wesley (1703 - 1791)

"Do not any longer contend for mastery, for power, money, or praise. Be content to be a private, insignificant person, known and loved by God and me....of what importance is your character to mankind, if you were buried just now. Or if you had never lived, what loss would it be to the cause of God." Letter to his wife, July 15, 1774

"Wife: Be content to be insignificant. What loss would it be to God or man had you never been born."

Allowed that spiritual Christian women could speak publicly in church meetings only if they "are under an extraodinary impulse of the Spirit" (Notes on the Bible, I Cor. 14:34, 35)

Adam Clarke

Agreed with John Wesley's notes on the Bible, I Cor. 14:34, 35 (above) that women were indeed to obey the Spirit in such a circumstance, affirming that "the apostle lays down directions in chap. 11 for regulating her personal appearance when thus employed." (Commentary on the Bible, I Cor. 14:34, 35)

James W. Fowler III (1940 - 2015)

He was an American theologian who was Professor of Theology and Human Development at Emory University. He was director of both the Center for Research on Faith and Moral Development and the Center for Ethics until he retired in 2005. He was a minister in the United Methodist Church.

"The Holiness of God is not evidenced in women when they are brash, brasssy, boisterous, brazen, head-strong, strong-willed, loud-mouthed, overly-talkative, having to have the last word, challenging, controlling, manipulative, critical, conceited, arrogant, aggressive, assertive, strident, interruptive, undisciplined, insubordinate, disruptive, dominating, domineering, or clamoring for power. Rather, women accept God's holy order and character by being humbly and unobtrusively respectful and receptive in functional subordination to God, church leadership, and husbands." (Women in the Church, 1999)

Mormon

Joseph Smith (1805 - 1844)

"The root of masculine is stronger, and of feminine weaker. The sun is a governing planet to certain planets, while the moon borrows her light from the sun, and is less or weaker."

Heber C. Kimball (1801 - 1868)

"Women are made to be led, and counseled, and directed....And if I am not a good man, I have no just right in this Church to a wife or wives, or the power to propagate my species. What then should be done with me? Make a eunuch of me, and stop my propagation."

Southern Baptist Convention

"A wife is to submit graciously ot the servant leadership of her husband, even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ." Official statement of the Southern Baptist Convention, Summer 1998

Pat Robertson (1930-)

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

Mark Driscoll (1970-)

Founder of Mars Hill non-denominational mega-church franchise

"Women will be saved by going back to that role that God has chosen for them. Ladies, if the hair on the back of your neck stands up it is because you are fighting your role in the scripture."

Owen Strachan

Identifies himself as a follower of John Calvin and espouses his teaching that men must exercise authority over women, ant that the fall of humanity was caused by Eve not maintaining her proper place, in submission to Adam:

"Yet God made the man first, and he gives Adam a leadership role by asking him to exercise authority over the animals by naming them."

"Everything fails apart in the fall. Adam fails to lead and protect Eve. Eve is deceived by the serpent and assumes the role of leader (Gen 3:1-13). In short, the fall itself involves an inversion of God's plans for men and women." https://www.9marks.org/article/genesis-gender-and-ecclesial-womanhood/ (Olson, R. (2011). Against Calvinism: Rescuing God's Reputation from Radical Reformed Theology. Grand Rapids, MI: Sondervan.)

Bruce Ware

Professor of Christian Theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 21st cnetury A.D. and known to be a Calvinist

"It means that a woman will demonstrate that she is in fact a Christian, that she has submitted to God's ways by affirming and embracing her God-designed identity as - for the most part, generally this is true - wife and mother, rather than chafing against it, rather than bucking against it, rather than wanting to be a man, wanting to be in a man's position, wanting to teach and exercise authority over men." [Taylor, S. (2013). Dethroning Male Headship, p. 109. Auburndale, FL: One Way Press.]

Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper

Promise one -- a man and his God: A Promise Keeper is committed to honoring Jesus Christ through worship, prayer, and obedience to God's Word in the power of the Holy Spirit.

Promise two -- a man and his mentors: A Promise Keeper is committed to pursuing vital relationships with a few other men, understanding that he needs brothers to help him keep his promises.

Promise three -- a man and his integrity: A Promise Keeper is committed to practicing spiritual, moral, ethical, and sexual purity.

Promise four -- a man and his family: A Promise Keeper is committed to building strong marriages and families through love, protection, and Biblical values.

Promise five -- a man and his church: A Promise Keeper is committed to supporting the mission of the church by honoring and praying for his pastor, and by actively giving of his time and resources.

Promise six -- a man and his brothers: A Promise Keeper is committed to reaching beyond any racial and denominational barriers to demonstrate the power of Biblical unity.

Promise seven -- a man and his world: A Promise Keeper is committed to influencing his world, being obedient to the Great Commandment (see Mark 12:30,31) and the Great Commission (see Matthew 28:19, 20).

Church Fathers' Teachings and Teachings of Christ Challenges

To see for oneself whether or not the gender views of the Church Fathers express the teachings of Christ, take the following challenge. Go through the above statements of the Church Fathers in both the "Ancients" and this "Medieval" sections and list the beliefs they taught, such as the examples below. Then read the four Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) as a sleuth to try to find each of those teachings or support for them, in His words or in His actions toward women. If you find any, write the scriptural references after the stated Church Father belief. See then howo their teachings on gender compare (or contrast) with the teachings of Christ.

1. All sin in the world, is the fault of Eve.

2. All women are Eves, so they carry the burden of sin in the world

3. Male nature (therefore all males) has honor, high intelligence, spiritual strength, continence (high moral character, ability to resist sin), natural leadership ability (should always rule), etc. Female nature (therefore all females) has shame, lower intelligence, spiritual weakness, greater propensity to sin, poor leadership ability (should always be ruled), etc.

4. A woman who has transcended her "female nature" has become a man.